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		<title>By: Working in PR: an experienced in-house leader talks &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working in PR: an experienced in-house leader talks &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] series, Graham White gave an PR agency perspective, whilst Richard Whitington and Di Treble gave a PR recruiters’ perspective, on working in PR and the impact of social media on developing a career in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What it takes to work in public relations: the agency perspective &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</title>
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		<dc:creator>What it takes to work in public relations: the agency perspective &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do you think about what Graham has said? Did you compare it to what leading PR recruiters said in a previous post? Is the task of developing new business in an agency environment a pleasure [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JayneP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayneP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting information, but what I would like to put forward is where do new, young practitioners come into play. These are the people who have been trained/grown up with social media and are not being given many chances. 

It would be nice to be supported by our industry and for employers to think about Generation Y, without stereotyping us. Having these skills, work experience and a great academic record does not seem to get you anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting information, but what I would like to put forward is where do new, young practitioners come into play. These are the people who have been trained/grown up with social media and are not being given many chances. </p>
<p>It would be nice to be supported by our industry and for employers to think about Generation Y, without stereotyping us. Having these skills, work experience and a great academic record does not seem to get you anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Catherine, the recruiters are very experienced, which is perhaps more relevant than their age. And definitely more relevant is my perception of them as being very pragmatic. So their perceptions are driven by the market they service, which is essentially public relations employers (rather than employees).

This is also relevant to the Australian market, rather than non-Aussie, which will ahve some bearing on their thoughts as well.

I know where you are coming from, and it&#039;s a very fair point to raise, too. Interestingly, the next post in this series, from an agency head, pretty much disagrees with Richard and Di&#039;s take on this. But this introduces another factor: R &amp; D mainly service (I think) in-house roles, rather than agency. Now this DOES raise another differentiating factor.

And so it goes on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Catherine, the recruiters are very experienced, which is perhaps more relevant than their age. And definitely more relevant is my perception of them as being very pragmatic. So their perceptions are driven by the market they service, which is essentially public relations employers (rather than employees).</p>
<p>This is also relevant to the Australian market, rather than non-Aussie, which will ahve some bearing on their thoughts as well.</p>
<p>I know where you are coming from, and it&#8217;s a very fair point to raise, too. Interestingly, the next post in this series, from an agency head, pretty much disagrees with Richard and Di&#8217;s take on this. But this introduces another factor: R &#038; D mainly service (I think) in-house roles, rather than agency. Now this DOES raise another differentiating factor.</p>
<p>And so it goes on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Sweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig- I&#039;m curious to know how old the two recruiters interviewed were. The social media thing is a generational issue. I know a lot of academics who teach on social media, but don&#039;t actually walk the talk. That&#039;s a shame, because it means that they aren&#039;t developing the next generation. It&#039;s also a problem that afflicts a lot of in-house corporate comms departments; the people at the top just don&#039;t get it.

I do know that in the UK, a recent survey of PR &amp; Comms jobs showed that social media skills were cited in over 70% of the job adverts, yet only 6% of the CVs coming in had mentioned any PROFESSIONAL use of social media. Clearly a mis-match between supply and demand is occurring and that always puts a premium on scarce skills. Professionally, we need to be doing more for clients to help them grasp that social media is a key development for stakeholder engagement and a real two-way symmetrical tool at that. There are plenty of black hat users out there, so getting the white hats to use it responsibly, for professional purposes, is something that is important. I&#039;ve started building it into every assignment I set for both graduate and undergraduate students. So, &quot;passing fad&quot;? I don&#039;t think so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig- I&#8217;m curious to know how old the two recruiters interviewed were. The social media thing is a generational issue. I know a lot of academics who teach on social media, but don&#8217;t actually walk the talk. That&#8217;s a shame, because it means that they aren&#8217;t developing the next generation. It&#8217;s also a problem that afflicts a lot of in-house corporate comms departments; the people at the top just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>I do know that in the UK, a recent survey of PR &amp; Comms jobs showed that social media skills were cited in over 70% of the job adverts, yet only 6% of the CVs coming in had mentioned any PROFESSIONAL use of social media. Clearly a mis-match between supply and demand is occurring and that always puts a premium on scarce skills. Professionally, we need to be doing more for clients to help them grasp that social media is a key development for stakeholder engagement and a real two-way symmetrical tool at that. There are plenty of black hat users out there, so getting the white hats to use it responsibly, for professional purposes, is something that is important. I&#8217;ve started building it into every assignment I set for both graduate and undergraduate students. So, &#8220;passing fad&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your generous comments, everyone. I hope to have Richard/Di respond to some of your queries.

Sophia, there was not a lot wrong with your answer. The tactics are horses for courses. However, I think the default is that we must ALWAYS consider social media as an option, not that we might consider it. 

Ultimately, however, employers are, or soon will be, looking for social media experience in a professional communication application context (as opposed to just doing it socially). What that means is that there are very few communication professionals who will be able to get by without social media proactical, hands-on experience. This is especially so for younger practitioners, as the oldies are actually looking to them for help and direction. A nice turn-around, isn&#039;t it?

It&#039;s an opportunity for the Department of Youth - grab it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your generous comments, everyone. I hope to have Richard/Di respond to some of your queries.</p>
<p>Sophia, there was not a lot wrong with your answer. The tactics are horses for courses. However, I think the default is that we must ALWAYS consider social media as an option, not that we might consider it. </p>
<p>Ultimately, however, employers are, or soon will be, looking for social media experience in a professional communication application context (as opposed to just doing it socially). What that means is that there are very few communication professionals who will be able to get by without social media proactical, hands-on experience. This is especially so for younger practitioners, as the oldies are actually looking to them for help and direction. A nice turn-around, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an opportunity for the Department of Youth &#8211; grab it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very timely post.  I was surprised to be asked in a job interview this week what my familiarity was with social media.  I said there were a variety of types and that depending upon the audience and the circumstances I might consider including a social media tactic in a campaign.  What else should I have said, if anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very timely post.  I was surprised to be asked in a job interview this week what my familiarity was with social media.  I said there were a variety of types and that depending upon the audience and the circumstances I might consider including a social media tactic in a campaign.  What else should I have said, if anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Daines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber Daines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A timely article, Craig that really hones in on the major issues and challenges PR professionals face today when engaging with the social media paradigm. I tend to say proceed with caution for anyone unsure who is accessing their information on sites like Twitter or even Linkedin. Social media is a powerful, global communications tool to connect to the masses but with any new forum comes fears and crises yet to unfold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A timely article, Craig that really hones in on the major issues and challenges PR professionals face today when engaging with the social media paradigm. I tend to say proceed with caution for anyone unsure who is accessing their information on sites like Twitter or even Linkedin. Social media is a powerful, global communications tool to connect to the masses but with any new forum comes fears and crises yet to unfold.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly that strategy is overused and misunderstood. However, the explanation that then follows does not describe strategy. Perhaps this is an opportunity for a significant discussion in itself.

Regarding the risk management point of view, I thought it was spot on.  I think we&#039;re in a profession which requires us to be conscious of how we interact, with whom we interact and how that could be perceived.  That segues directly to the issue of &quot;separate&quot; online lives -- public and private.  

How I feel about it emotionally is a different question, but I don&#039;t think we have the option of expecting that they will be kept separate.  I certainly would counsel any client not to expect what we might, in our hearts, define as private to be treated as private once it&#039;s online.  This is not really that different than business emails, telephone calls and some correspondence.  

Once, we were much more casual about more &quot;informal&quot; communication. We have learned that all that is discoverable, in legal terms, and, in media terms, available for revelation. For a long time, my rule of thumb has been, &quot;What would a judge say?&quot;

I&#039;ve been wrestling personally with this.  I&#039;m working on a non-fiction book (as yet unrelated to what I do professionally) and it is likely to stir some emotion and controversy.  I&#039;ve reserved a URL to get started on a blog on the subject, but thinking through the implications of those controversies is one of my early tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly that strategy is overused and misunderstood. However, the explanation that then follows does not describe strategy. Perhaps this is an opportunity for a significant discussion in itself.</p>
<p>Regarding the risk management point of view, I thought it was spot on.  I think we&#8217;re in a profession which requires us to be conscious of how we interact, with whom we interact and how that could be perceived.  That segues directly to the issue of &#8220;separate&#8221; online lives &#8212; public and private.  </p>
<p>How I feel about it emotionally is a different question, but I don&#8217;t think we have the option of expecting that they will be kept separate.  I certainly would counsel any client not to expect what we might, in our hearts, define as private to be treated as private once it&#8217;s online.  This is not really that different than business emails, telephone calls and some correspondence.  </p>
<p>Once, we were much more casual about more &#8220;informal&#8221; communication. We have learned that all that is discoverable, in legal terms, and, in media terms, available for revelation. For a long time, my rule of thumb has been, &#8220;What would a judge say?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wrestling personally with this.  I&#8217;m working on a non-fiction book (as yet unrelated to what I do professionally) and it is likely to stir some emotion and controversy.  I&#8217;ve reserved a URL to get started on a blog on the subject, but thinking through the implications of those controversies is one of my early tasks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested to hear what they have to say about people wanting to move OUT of the PR world - where do they/should they go? What are careers they can easily transition into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested to hear what they have to say about people wanting to move OUT of the PR world &#8211; where do they/should they go? What are careers they can easily transition into?</p>
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