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	<title>Comments on: Sisters in business: inbound marketing and public relations</title>
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	<description>Short-term pain for long-term gain</description>
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		<title>By: Three secrets behind using thought leadership op-eds in the media &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Three secrets behind using thought leadership op-eds in the media &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for publication. Credibility exists, it doesn’t need to be pitched in. It’s another version of inbound marketing, in fact, before inbound marketing was even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for publication. Credibility exists, it doesn’t need to be pitched in. It’s another version of inbound marketing, in fact, before inbound marketing was even [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaSword</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatriciaSword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting a high techniques for you to use in your inbound marketing is one big way to become successful on your business. setting up proper goals and perspective measures that can be useful for business is the great way to make it effective on your business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting a high techniques for you to use in your inbound marketing is one big way to become successful on your business. setting up proper goals and perspective measures that can be useful for business is the great way to make it effective on your business.</p>
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		<title>By: Using LinkedIn for strategic communication &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Using LinkedIn for strategic communication &#124; Public relations and managing reputation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] strategy, is an absolute, no-compromise necessity to apply the approaches thought leadership and inbound marketing. This is consistent with most approaches to social media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the generous thoughts Guy. Jim Macnamara, a leading Australian academic and teacher of public relations, agrees with you the relationship benefits of PR. I tend to think they can lead to sales outcomes, too, but I certainly put reputation at the top of the tree for importance and outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the generous thoughts Guy. Jim Macnamara, a leading Australian academic and teacher of public relations, agrees with you the relationship benefits of PR. I tend to think they can lead to sales outcomes, too, but I certainly put reputation at the top of the tree for importance and outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Versailles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Versailles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though provoking as always, Craig. Testing the boundaries between public relations and marketing has always been a sensitive topic for me, because I believe we can easily lose our marks, and our souls (OK I might be exaggerating slightly here) when we lend our PR credibility to our friends in the marketing department.

I would have highlighted different key words in your text, starting with this sentence:  Enhanced credibility/ reputation comes from a perception that the organisation is making an investment into the target audience without looking for any blatant return from the target audience.

This leads me in a slightly different direction that establishes a clear border and difference between public relations and marketing: MARKETING is in it for the SALES.  As Cutlip writes its goal is to foster “transactions that deliver products and services in exchange for something of value to the provider” (usually money).

PUBLIC RELATIONS is in it for the RELATIONSHIP. Again, quoting Cutlip:  “the management function that establishes and maintains beneficial relationships between an organisation and the publics on whom its success or failure depends”.

So, yes, you’re right that the goal of marketing PR or, in this case, of inbound marketing, is to draw potential customers, the assumption being that if we enter into a relationship with a person on the basis of though leadership, this person is more liable to become a customer.  BUT:
A)     Not all people drawn into the tough-leadership induced relationship will become customers and this should not be the only measure of success of such an initiative;
B)      These relationships could prove to be beneficial in many non-commercial ways, e.g. good will and support in other issues.

Again, the measure of success of a PR program is the relationship itself, not any specific benefit that might accrue from that relationship in the near future.  This is unfortunately much more difficult to measure than the ROI of an advertising campaign.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though provoking as always, Craig. Testing the boundaries between public relations and marketing has always been a sensitive topic for me, because I believe we can easily lose our marks, and our souls (OK I might be exaggerating slightly here) when we lend our PR credibility to our friends in the marketing department.</p>
<p>I would have highlighted different key words in your text, starting with this sentence:  Enhanced credibility/ reputation comes from a perception that the organisation is making an investment into the target audience without looking for any blatant return from the target audience.</p>
<p>This leads me in a slightly different direction that establishes a clear border and difference between public relations and marketing: MARKETING is in it for the SALES.  As Cutlip writes its goal is to foster “transactions that deliver products and services in exchange for something of value to the provider” (usually money).</p>
<p>PUBLIC RELATIONS is in it for the RELATIONSHIP. Again, quoting Cutlip:  “the management function that establishes and maintains beneficial relationships between an organisation and the publics on whom its success or failure depends”.</p>
<p>So, yes, you’re right that the goal of marketing PR or, in this case, of inbound marketing, is to draw potential customers, the assumption being that if we enter into a relationship with a person on the basis of though leadership, this person is more liable to become a customer.  BUT:<br />
A)     Not all people drawn into the tough-leadership induced relationship will become customers and this should not be the only measure of success of such an initiative;<br />
B)      These relationships could prove to be beneficial in many non-commercial ways, e.g. good will and support in other issues.</p>
<p>Again, the measure of success of a PR program is the relationship itself, not any specific benefit that might accrue from that relationship in the near future.  This is unfortunately much more difficult to measure than the ROI of an advertising campaign.</p>
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