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		<title>Comment on Six reasons for PR strategy by Craig Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that and a whole lot more, Lynn. Thanks for the comments, but perhaps the flagging of the blog in the comments section is a bit too obviously self-promotional. Good luck with it however!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that and a whole lot more, Lynn. Thanks for the comments, but perhaps the flagging of the blog in the comments section is a bit too obviously self-promotional. Good luck with it however!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Six reasons for PR strategy by Lynn Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree with these reason. I am a young PR practitoner and I can honestly say that people often have misconceptions about what we do. PR is more than media relations and gaining media coverage for clients. All of those things are simply components of the strategy. Above all, PR involves strategic planning and maintaining healthy, positive relationships with the media.
Checkout my blog, www.lynnprmentality.wordpress.com #PR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with these reason. I am a young PR practitoner and I can honestly say that people often have misconceptions about what we do. PR is more than media relations and gaining media coverage for clients. All of those things are simply components of the strategy. Above all, PR involves strategic planning and maintaining healthy, positive relationships with the media.<br />
Checkout my blog, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.lynnprmentality.wordpress.com #PR" >http://www.lynnprmentality.wordpress.com #PR</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Public relations strategy for infrastructure: a case study by Craig Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mark, in general I can only agree with your sentiment, and it&#039;s not just contained to infrastructure. Organisations and recruiters have, for years, only wanted those that come from within a specific industry. I think this is narrow-minded and means they miss out on fresh approaches and perspectives.

It doesn&#039;t seem to be as bad now as it was a few years back - barring the obviously deeply in-bred PR fields of pharma and finance (no offence, guys) - but it&#039;s still frustating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mark, in general I can only agree with your sentiment, and it&#8217;s not just contained to infrastructure. Organisations and recruiters have, for years, only wanted those that come from within a specific industry. I think this is narrow-minded and means they miss out on fresh approaches and perspectives.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem to be as bad now as it was a few years back &#8211; barring the obviously deeply in-bred PR fields of pharma and finance (no offence, guys) - but it&#8217;s still frustating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public relations strategy for infrastructure: a case study by Markdawsonpr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markdawsonpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent information on the strategies involved. What is concerning is that recruitment agencies and infrastructure companies want community consultation exponents with a decade  of experience behind them. They focus on people already with careers in infrastructure rather than PR all-rounders coming from other backgrounds.  There are exceptions but in the main it seems to be a closed shop. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information on the strategies involved. What is concerning is that recruitment agencies and infrastructure companies want community consultation exponents with a decade  of experience behind them. They focus on people already with careers in infrastructure rather than PR all-rounders coming from other backgrounds.  There are exceptions but in the main it seems to be a closed shop. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Exploring the relationship between PR and marketing by Ford</title>
		<link>http://craigpearce.info/marketing/exploring-relationship-pr-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-11294</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig - Believe there&#039;s semantic problem. Strongly suggest de-coupling a limited definition of Marketing as pertaining only to the strictly commercial activity of offering goods, services or stock under the direction of a person with a Marketing title  (VP, Director, Manager, etc). A religious faith, political campaign, sports franchise, government service, NGO or any organization needs to compete for attention in the world of ideas for support from a constituency or community of benefactors (i.e. customers). Any of these entities may apply PR to promote itself, grow or help create change. A pubic company&#039;s CFO acts in a marketing role when they direct their investor relations team to engage the investment community. 

PR is not self-supporting. Try taking away the essential organizational need to to &quot;market&quot; itself in some way and what&#039;s public relations about? As grand or seemingly important a thing as PR may be from profession practitioners&#039; perspective, it is not a free-standing activity. It exists to support an enterprise or activity of some kind in need of communications outreach for awareness, credibility and relationship-building. Similarly, where would medical practice be without patients? A personal or organizational objective precedes and directs the need for PR action. That objective is a marketing one.

Suggest that some objections to my perspective grow out of many PR pros&#039; past frustrations working with whatever passed for marketing management in their employer or client organizations. This friction can perhaps lead PR pros to wanting to distance themselves from marketing, especially when marketing has act in ways that are strategically counterproductive to the long-term benefit of the organization or its customers or community. PR can be the organizational conscience when marketing is short-sighted. PR has often been the organization&#039;s eyes and ears since part of its job is community and market engagement. However, this is also an area of responsibility for effective marketing and one of the excellent areas for marketing and PR cooperation. It also points one of the key connections between the two disciplines.

Please look at the broader concept that PR serves and supports some kind of a &quot;marketing&quot; function whether its selling &quot;stuff,&quot; or promoting/communicating ideas, political or social change for a cause. This is true for a sponsoring organization or client whether there&#039;s someone in charge with a specific marketing title or not. My book attempts to illuminate how the working relationship between the organization&#039;s governing or managing (marketing) entity and those managing PR can be an effective partnership. However, PR needs a partner that is &quot;marketing&quot; something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig &#8211; Believe there&#8217;s semantic problem. Strongly suggest de-coupling a limited definition of Marketing as pertaining only to the strictly commercial activity of offering goods, services or stock under the direction of a person with a Marketing title  (VP, Director, Manager, etc). A religious faith, political campaign, sports franchise, government service, NGO or any organization needs to compete for attention in the world of ideas for support from a constituency or community of benefactors (i.e. customers). Any of these entities may apply PR to promote itself, grow or help create change. A pubic company&#8217;s CFO acts in a marketing role when they direct their investor relations team to engage the investment community. </p>
<p>PR is not self-supporting. Try taking away the essential organizational need to to &#8220;market&#8221; itself in some way and what&#8217;s public relations about? As grand or seemingly important a thing as PR may be from profession practitioners&#8217; perspective, it is not a free-standing activity. It exists to support an enterprise or activity of some kind in need of communications outreach for awareness, credibility and relationship-building. Similarly, where would medical practice be without patients? A personal or organizational objective precedes and directs the need for PR action. That objective is a marketing one.</p>
<p>Suggest that some objections to my perspective grow out of many PR pros&#8217; past frustrations working with whatever passed for marketing management in their employer or client organizations. This friction can perhaps lead PR pros to wanting to distance themselves from marketing, especially when marketing has act in ways that are strategically counterproductive to the long-term benefit of the organization or its customers or community. PR can be the organizational conscience when marketing is short-sighted. PR has often been the organization&#8217;s eyes and ears since part of its job is community and market engagement. However, this is also an area of responsibility for effective marketing and one of the excellent areas for marketing and PR cooperation. It also points one of the key connections between the two disciplines.</p>
<p>Please look at the broader concept that PR serves and supports some kind of a &#8220;marketing&#8221; function whether its selling &#8220;stuff,&#8221; or promoting/communicating ideas, political or social change for a cause. This is true for a sponsoring organization or client whether there&#8217;s someone in charge with a specific marketing title or not. My book attempts to illuminate how the working relationship between the organization&#8217;s governing or managing (marketing) entity and those managing PR can be an effective partnership. However, PR needs a partner that is &#8220;marketing&#8221; something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A personal view on ethics in public relations by Craig Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful response, Alan.

I tend to agree with everything you have articulated. Yes, I agree that the &#039;bottom line&#039; (e.g. money) really tells us is our ethics where our mouth is. But as you intimate, easier said than done. 

Do you quit because you&#039;re ethically uncomfortable, putting at risk your family&#039;s well-being? Well, yes, I&#039;d like to think you do, but maybe it&#039;s not black and white. Best off doing thorough due diligence on your employer before you take up the opportunity. in most cases, you&#039;ll get the right heads up I should think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response, Alan.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with everything you have articulated. Yes, I agree that the &#8216;bottom line&#8217; (e.g. money) really tells us is our ethics where our mouth is. But as you intimate, easier said than done. </p>
<p>Do you quit because you&#8217;re ethically uncomfortable, putting at risk your family&#8217;s well-being? Well, yes, I&#8217;d like to think you do, but maybe it&#8217;s not black and white. Best off doing thorough due diligence on your employer before you take up the opportunity. in most cases, you&#8217;ll get the right heads up I should think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A personal view on ethics in public relations by Alan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Craig, good article, you raise good points and as always with ethics, there are uncomfortable bits around the edge (which is good).  

Perhaps, though, the true test of ethics is that point you make towards the end: &quot;if you are asked to work in a field you are not ethically comfortable with, then you really need to get out of there ASAP, financial considerations notwithstanding&quot;. Surely ethics demand that you get out of there despite the financial considerations? And perhaps that&#039;s the ultimate test of ethical behaviour in a public relations context: that it&#039;s judged by the majority as being the right thing to have done or said despite the money? Difficult to pull off, of course, but I suppose that&#039;s the point as well. And this position also brings to a head the concept of two opposing opinions: which one prevails, which one is right, where does the opportunity of fair debate fit, should the opinion of the majority, perhaps always shouted the loudest, always prevail and is it always right, and so on.Interesting stuff! But if our job is to shine a light on debate, and on a more complete understanding of a product or a position or a service or an opinion, and do so in the context of &quot;doing the right thing by society as a whole&quot;, perhaps we can live with that role comfortably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig, good article, you raise good points and as always with ethics, there are uncomfortable bits around the edge (which is good).  </p>
<p>Perhaps, though, the true test of ethics is that point you make towards the end: &#8220;if you are asked to work in a field you are not ethically comfortable with, then you really need to get out of there ASAP, financial considerations notwithstanding&#8221;. Surely ethics demand that you get out of there despite the financial considerations? And perhaps that&#8217;s the ultimate test of ethical behaviour in a public relations context: that it&#8217;s judged by the majority as being the right thing to have done or said despite the money? Difficult to pull off, of course, but I suppose that&#8217;s the point as well. And this position also brings to a head the concept of two opposing opinions: which one prevails, which one is right, where does the opportunity of fair debate fit, should the opinion of the majority, perhaps always shouted the loudest, always prevail and is it always right, and so on.Interesting stuff! But if our job is to shine a light on debate, and on a more complete understanding of a product or a position or a service or an opinion, and do so in the context of &#8220;doing the right thing by society as a whole&#8221;, perhaps we can live with that role comfortably.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Comunicación, Periodismo y Social Media &#124; Silvia Albert in company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Exploring the relationship between PR and marketing [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Resources by 2012 PR33 &#8211; Top PR / Communications Blogs &#171; Paul Roberts on PR</title>
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		<dc:creator>2012 PR33 &#8211; Top PR / Communications Blogs &#171; Paul Roberts on PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rebranding for PR months ago - The future of public relations: a rebrand? He also keeps his own list of bloggers that is worth checking [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>2012 PR33 &#8211; Top PR / Communications Blogs &#171; Paul Roberts on PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] defining PR, Craig was ahead of the curve writing about a full rebranding for PR months ago - The future of public relations: a rebrand? He also keeps his own list of bloggers that is worth checking [...]</description>
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